Recovery

WARNING
The following photos and descriptions may be graphic for some folks.
Swipe away if stitches make you squeamish!

Immediately post-op

My eyes aren’t notably swollen yet. I suppose this is because my body hasn’t had a chance to ‘react’ and create inflammation and swelling to the incisions yet.

The following photo was taken in the recovery room, immediately after operation. The blue lines on my eyes are just Dr Seo’s pen marks/guidelines, which will be cleaned off over the next few days:

3 pm
(~3 hours post op)

We’re back at our Air Bnb. The procedure was virtually painless but I’m currently in quite a bit of pain. I would probably rate it 5/10 (0 being negligible and 10 being excruciating). My eyelids feel heavy, very sore, and I have a throbbing headache. I did have a slight headache before the operation but it was definitely aggravated by the surgery.

My lids have definitely started to swell:

6:45 PM
(6 hours post-op)

The painkillers provided by the clinic have not been strong enough to alleviate the discomfort I’m experiencing. Thank goodness I brought some Tylenol #1 (Acetaminophen with Codeine) with me from Canada to top up on my pain management. As advised by the clinic, I’ve been icing my eyes for 20 minutes, breaking for 1 hour, then repeating.

My lids are still swollen and sore but I’m feeling slightly less pain than 3 hours post op. I’m unsure if it’s because the Tylenol #1 is kicking in if my body is starting to get accustomed to the pain.

Tonight, I’m not looking forward to sleeping at a 45 degree angle but apparently that is what is recommended for at least 48 hours post op to minimize swelling.

My eyes are similarly swollen compared to yesterday. If anything, they are actually slightly less swollen! I’m surprised because I have read the first days (especially 2-3) following DES tend to the the worst.

Sleeping at a 45 degree angle last night was annoying. I was propped up on 3 pillows but felt like a stiff mannequin trying to maintain an upright position. I suppose it would be easier for someone who normally sleeps on their back. I tend to favour sleeping on my side and found this position irritating. Anyway, it reduces swelling so I’ll tough it out and sleep upright again tonight.

I did spend the majority of the day icing. 20 minutes on, then 1 hour off, as before. I actually have an ice pack secured to my head right now as I type! I guess lessons about keyboard ‘home positions’ from elementary school are finally paying off. That, or I’ll have some serious editing to do after this.
Anyway, I notice swelling of my eyelids reduces immediately after icing. It’s definitely essential that I stay on track and ice as much as possible today and tomorrow.

I am experiencing some pressure behind my left eye. It comes and goes, and perhaps that’s because I’m also continuing my medications (which includes Tylenol). I’ll probably mention this at my follow up appointment tomorrow.

My right eye does have visible bruising above the crease (see photo). I noticed the spot last night and it has darkened today. I’ve been using the Auriderm cream religiously, at least every hour or every half an hour. I wonder if this is helping to reduce bruising but I’m not willing to skip an application to test this out.

This morning, I did wake up with some eye crusts in the corner of my lids. I carefully wiped these away using some Live Clean non-petrolatum jelly and it did a good job wiping off any gunk that had accumulated. I read from several sources that you should not allow your stitches to dry out completely. The incision is basically an open wound and should be treated as such. It should be kept hydrated (using a thin layer of antibiotic ointment) to promote healing. That said, the staff at MVP advised me to keep the stitches not to apply too much antibiotic ointment and I should not keep the sutures too moist. I don’t understand why they said this, but I assume it’s because an excess amount of ointment might promote slippage/loosening of the sutures? I’m not sure.

For swelling, I’ve been eating pumpkin soup, which was provided by the clinic. Before surgery, we stocked up on “Ottogi” brand sweet pumpkin soup but I find it *way* too sweet in comparison to the variety provided by the clinic. I’m going to continue searching for another brand to stock up on.

We did manage to squeeze in a few walks outside today. We are staying close to Hangang park, which is beautiful! It was fun to see all the day tents pitched up, people flying kites and riding their bicycles. When we returned home, I noticed my eyes were minimally swollen, which surprised me since I had skipped icing by an hour by the time we returned home.

I read that walking around can reduce swelling and it seems to be true in my case. I’ll avoid any strenuous exercise for the next few weeks but I think it’s very important that I continue to keep my circulation flowing by walking between icings.

Anyway, I’m really happy with my healing progress. Thus far, I think Dr Seo did a wonderful job creating even incisions, and his stitching is very tidy.

Tomorrow I will visit the clinic for a check up and to get my stitches cleaned. As my sutures seem to be in great condition tonight, I’ll be curious to see what they suggest tomorrow.

Today, I returned to MVP to get my stitches cleaned, get some antibiotic ointment applied, and they also hooked me up an IV full of electrolytes + vitamins. The clinic staff said they were amazed by how fast I’m healing and they haven’t seen anyone with such minimal swelling after 2 days! Woo hoo!

The bruising is still very visible above my right crease, however it is not worse than yesterday. I notice my left eyelid is slightly more swollen than my right eyelid.

I only iced a few times today, walked around a lot, and tonight, I’ll be alternating my ice packs with warm compresses to promote circulation.

Despite all this progress, my sutures really sting today. The swelling and redness seems minimal and I’ve been diligent about applying my antibiotic ointment and eye drops so I doubt they are infected. However, they stingggg.

Hoping for continued progress tomorrow! Trying my best to stay away from salty food in the meantime but it’s so difficult with all these delicious food options on every corner (haha!). Seoul is really a cool city.

My right eye is definitely more swollen than my left eye today. The bruising on my right eyelid looks a little ‘angrier’ today as well. Despite this, pain has generally reduced compared to yesterday. Tomorrow I return to MVP for de-swelling treatment, and apparently they may remove my sutures then too! I always thought sutures were removed 7 days post DES but I suppose every clinic is different.

I notice my left eye is a little bloodshot. My vision has also been blurry and that’s something I’ll ask Dr Seo about tomorrow.

Today I visited MVP for some more de-swelling lasers, suture cleaning, and I got my sutures removed! It felt like sleepers were dried onto my lids and someone was tugging at them hard enough to pluck out hair. I strated crying by the end of it because it stung so badly 😢.

I saw Dr Seo who says I’m healing very well. One concern I had was about the crease height. The current (swollen) height is similar to what we had discussed the final, desired crease height should be. He said that once swelling subsides, I should expect my lids to drop by about half. I’m not thrilled about this but what can be done about it now? I’ll just focus on healing and see what happens.

Basically no pain today. I do feel an occasional ‘tug’ or throbbing in one of my lids but they seem to be doing well.

My lids are now flaking a bit so I’m trying to keep them hydrated. Apparently I’m okay to start applying SPF into the sutures so I’m trying to be diligent with that.

My right lid is still more swollen than my left. I’m hiding the bruising with cover up now but it’s slowly fading.

Will be posting weekly from hereon!

My crease has definitely dropped since week 1. It already looks quite natural in person but I hope it doesn’t continue to drop much more than it has already!

I’m feeling virtually no pain now. However, my lids are still sensitive and I’m continuing to be very gentle when washing or cleaning the incision line.

I’m only wearing eyeliner on the corners of my eyes and I like how my lash line makes it appear as I’m wearing liner all across my lid.

Excuse the stray hairs stuck to my face above :p.

I’m not wearing makeup in week 4’s photo. To be honest, I’m not thrilled that my crease height continues to drop with the de-swelling, as it has already dropped lower than what Dr Seo and I had discussed.

I have been quite open with my friends and family about my eyelids and feedback has been overwhelmingly positive so far. Most people comment on how natural the results are, and that my eyes look brighter, and more youthful. Everyone seems amazed at how quickly I am healing.

I’ve been experimenting with eye makeup and am having the most trouble applying eyeliner. Even the thinnest line overtakes my entire crease due to my low crease height. I will probably need to trial tight-lining my eyes. I feel like a teenager again, who has no idea what the best application techniques are, or what eye makeup will suit me best.

It’s difficult to tell from the above photo, but my left eyelid is slightly more swollen than my right lid. Most people can’t notice until I point it out and they observe closely. I’m hopeful that they will eventually even out as the months wear on.

I’m not wearing any makeup above (obviously). My crease height seems to have stabilized since last week and I don’t notice any difference in height. My left crease is still slightly more swollen than my right crease, but it’s difficult to see in photos.

I still have Auriderm cream, which I’ve been applying morning and evening above the incision line. I’ve also been applying scar gel at bedtime, toggling between Mederma Gel and the Contractubex, which was sold to me by the clinic.
In hindsight, I regret purchasing the Contractubex from the clinic. Mederma and Contractubex use the same active ingredient (Allantoin), and they have very similar gel consistency and application. I find the Mederma to have a milder scent as well. Contratubex is heavily perfumed and while it’s not unpleasant, it’s unnecessary and I prefer to avoid scented products. The Mederma is significantly cheaper than the Contractubex as well. Ah well, hindsight is 20/20, right?

My current concern are the incision lines. I understand that scarring can take several months to a year to fully heal, but there are a few pimply bumps (apparently called “milia”) spanning the crease. My left eyelid has about 5-6 tiny milia, whereas my right lid has 2. My biggest concern are the dark pinpoint “heads” at the centre of these bumps. You can’t see them in the above photo but they’re visible in person. I’m worried that my mascara/eyeliner has stained the milia and they haven’t been wiping away with normal cleansing and cotton swabbing. They’re puny and it’s difficult to tell if they’re tiny scabs or makeup stains. I am seriously hoping they are simply scabs that will heal as the skin cells turnover. I’ve read that a complication of applying makeup too early after DES can cause unwanted ‘tattooing’ of the incision line. I hope and pray that hasn’t happened here! Only time will tell.

In other news, I’m attending a wedding tonight, which marks my first special occasion since DES! I’ve settled into a satisfactory daily eye makeup routine but have been wanting to test a more dramatic look for photos.

Wearing very thin eyeliner and half a band of lashes today! Even the thinnest liner overpowers my lid space.

The milia have all diminished except for one on my left eye. I also notice my left eyelid is not as tender to the touch and has de swelled to be more symmetrical with my right eye.

Honestly, there hasn’t been noticeable change in my crease height for a few weeks now. Starting from week 12, I’ll be posting photos monthly instead of weekly!

Monthly Updates

18 thoughts on “Recovery

    1. Hmm, I’m embarrassed to admit I’m not sure! I did a quick assessment in the mirror and it looks to be approximately 4-5 mm high.

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  1. Hi! Thanks for writing such a detailed blog of your surgery! I’m looking to do non-incisional DES at MVP very soon as well and have some questions if you don’t mind answering 🙂

    – would you recommend dr seo as a surgeon despite the crease not being as high as you wanted?

    – is the crease line invisible and natural irl?

    – did dr seo talk about the longevity of the double eyelids? I’m worried if it can last a long time :/ How’s yours currently?

    Sorry for the mutiple questions! Hope you have a good day 🙂

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    1. Hallo~ Thanks for reading!

      That’s great you’re opting for the non-incisional procedure. From my understanding, recovery time is much quicker compared to incisional DES. Unfortunately, I can’t speak to any particular details about the procedure itself since I opted for the incisional method. However I’ll try my best to answer your questions!

      1) Dr Seo is quite gentle and I found him to be very skilled. He seemed to have a subtle, yet artistic flare when he was ‘designing’ my crease and I felt comfortable being under his care. My resultant crease is slightly lower than I would’ve liked but my results look very natural and my entire recovery has been smooth. For these reasons, I would recommend Dr Seo.

      2) I’m happy to say there is no noticeable scarring on the incision line. However, the incision line did have several milia-like bumps as I recovered. The staff at MPV say those bumps were due to the ‘tightness’ of the stitches. They did slowly fade over the following weeks.

      3) I opted for incisional DES so unfortunately I can’t speak to the ‘longevity’ of non-incisional DES. From my understanding, duration can vary greatly based on several factors. For example, the amount of fat in your eyelid, ptosis, etc. I would ask Dr Seo about predicted longevity based on your particular situation.
      A friend once told me that recovering from DES is equally a psychological journey as it is physical. I have to say this is totally true. I’m 5 months post op and struggle with the subtle changes in my lids day by day. With incisional DES, final results can take up to a full year! Overall, I’m happy with my results though. My lids look natural, they are even, and I wear at least 80% less eye makeup than I used to!

      Best of luck to you!!! I hope you recover swiftly and love your results!

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  2. Hi there!

    I have my deposit for MVP already for next month for lateral and Epicanthoplasty, fat graft, and hump reduction. I was wondering if you could kindly be able to answer a few questions I have about MVP and the surgery:

    1. Were you able to bargain on the price anymore than the summer event? I am hoping since I am getting multiple procedures I can get at least a 20% discount

    2. I herd that the VAT refund for foreigners stopped starting 2018, any idea if they actually did stop giving plastic surgery refund starting 2018?

    I went with MVP because I heard Dr. Seo gave very natural results which I prefer. Your eyes look very natural and well done!

    Thanks 😊

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    1. Sorry mixed up the part with summer event! We’re you able to get a discount for either letting your pictures to be used or writing this review?

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    2. hi Emily,

      Thanks for reading and for your kind words! How exciting you have some procedures lined up with MVP!
      I’ll try my best to answer your questions:

      1. My procedure was scheduled for mid October, so I unfortunately didn’t have a summer event to take advantage of. The clinic mixed up my scheduled appointment (which was very stressful for me), so I did manage to negotiate my procedure down by roughly 20%. Because you are getting multiple procedures done, I would imagine you could do the same or better!

      2. Yes I read about the VAT refund being revoked this new year. To be honest, this sped up my decision to get DES last October instead of waiting for this year. I did a quick Google search but wasn’t able to find official information regarding whether or not this promo is still available. One blog (http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3027172) wrote the promo expired at the end of December 2017. Regardless, I would ask your agent at MVP about this! Are you in touch with someone there via Kakao/Whatsapp/WeChat?

      I’d be happy to chat to you more if you have any other questions.
      Best of luck Emily!

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      1. Thank you so much for the help! I have just a couple more questions about post surgery. How was the pain the days after with the pain killers they provide?
        Also, I know for some people they are not allowed to wash their face almost 2 days after surgery?! We’re you advised to not wash around the eyes but you could clean your skin that was not operated on? I am just concerned about my skin and getting oily hair the days after from not being able to wash properly 😦

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      2. No problem at all!
        They provided some mild pain killers (I believe Acetaminophen, or the Korean equivalent). They also sent me home with de-swelling creams and antibiotics. I was unsure about pain post-op as well, so I brought some Acetaminophen/Codeine with me from my home country. The most uncomfortable time for me was 1 day post op. I think post-op pain will vary considerably since everyone heals at different rates, pain tolerance can be different, + you’re getting more than one procedure.

        Here’s what I blogged about my pain (6 hours post-op):
        The painkillers provided by the clinic have not been strong enough to alleviate the discomfort I’m experiencing. Thank goodness I brought some Tylenol #1 (Acetaminophen with Codeine) with me from Canada to top up on my pain management. As advised by the clinic, I’ve been icing my eyes for 20 minutes, breaking for 1 hour, then repeating.

        I was concerned about not being able to wash my face either! I brought unscented facial wipes with me and gently cleaned the skin around the skin that wasn’t operated on. I remember feeling relieved to splash some water on my face after a few days! Just remember to dab your operative areas dry super gently (no rubbing).
        I did wait a few days to attempt washing my hair though….hope you have some dry shampoo! :p

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  3. Hi!

    Thanks for sharing your experience with the clinic. I am also thinking of getting double eyelid surgery done, since a long time ago too. May I know if Dr Seo speaks English or does a foreign patient have to rely completely on the translator to speak during the consultation? I am not a Korean (I’m from Singapore), hence even though I’ve contemplated getting surgery in Korea, the language barrier worries me. I’m afriad that the surgeon may not be able to understand what I want my eyes to look like.

    Do you know if Dr Seo has any good experience with lower blepharoplasty as well? Besides double eyelid surgery, I am also thinking of getting my puffy eyebags reduced. Not sure if it is advisable or can be done together with double eyelid surgery?

    Lastly, how did you get in touch with the clinic? Was it through a medical concierge like finddoc or did you liaise directly with them? I’ve never been to Korea before, so if I do go there for surgery, does the clinic offer services like other clinics/hospitals like post-op accommodation recommendations etc?

    Sorry for the many questions.

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    1. hi Cherie,

      Thanks for your questions and sorry for the delayed reply. That’s exciting to hear you’re thinking of getting DES!

      Dr Seo can understand a small amount of basic English but relies heavily on his translators. I will say the translators I worked with (Elizabeth and Helen) are both fluent in Korean and English and seemed to have no issues mediating for him. The translator would be present during your consultation so communication shouldn’t be a huge issue during your appointment.

      I asked Dr Seo to demonstrate a few different lid heights for me. He poked my lid with a tool, and also drew a few examples on paper to explain what it might look like with/without epicanthoplasty. The one we agreed upon was the middle of the road (not very high, not very low). Now that I’ve healed, I will say that my crease height is lower (by 1-2 mm) than what we agreed upon. For that reason, I would recommend being very firm with Dr Seo regarding your desired crease height, especially if you’re seeking a medium/higher height.

      I didn’t inquire about lower blepharoplasty so you’d have to contact the clinic.
      I consulted the clinic exclusively through Kakaotalk and would recommend that (or what’s app). Their staff is super approaching and responsive through instant messaging!

      I considered going through doc finder or or another concierge service but personally like doing my own research for clinics/accommodation/etc. so decided to plan everything on my own. Also bear in mind that that concierge services are biased to recommend/take you to clinics they are affiliated with and sponsored by. A concierge service might be a good option for you if you’re unsure about navigating Seoul/the culture, especially if you’ll be alone and it will be your first time in Korea.

      MVP didn’t offer accommodation recommendations or any additional services. They did offer airport pickup/drop off though.

      Let me know if you have any other questions!

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  4. Hello, thanks for your write up.

    Looks like you recovered wonderfully.

    Just wondering if there was anything you did to prepare for your surgery such as your diet or exercise (or anything else) that you feel contributed to the success of your healing? I’m just researching supplements and dietary changes at the moment.

    Was there anything else in your recovery phase that you found particularly helpful? How did your swelling/bruising cream work for you?

    Thanks,
    TK

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    1. hi TK,

      Thanks for reading! I feel fortunate that my healing process has been smooth.

      In preparation for my surgery, I didn’t make any dramatic changes to my diet. That said, I am a fairly health-conscious person and avoid excessively sweet/salty/fatty foods in general. I also continued taking my regular vitamin C supplement and stopped fish oil (as it can thin the blood and I wanted to minimize bruising).

      Post op, I know some clinics recommend avoiding salty food (to minimize fluid retension/bloating), seafood (I’m unsure why), and to eat pumpkin soup to assist with de-swelling. I also avoided spicy foods to minimize inflammation/irritation as well.

      I think there were some main factors that contributed to my speedy recovery. One was constant attention to my sutures (e.g. ensuring there were kept moist enough with antibiotic ointment to be flexible, but not sopping wet. Also ensure no fresh blood was allowed to stay on the sutures/skin to avoid scabbing). Another was icing religiously, especially for the first 48 hours. I brought an extra eye-gel pack to keep cool in the fridge while I was using the one provided by the hospital. Lastly, I think keeping my circulation flowing by walking helped me de-swell quickly. If you feel self conscious about being in public, it’s worth even pacing around your apartment for the de-swelling benefits!

      I’m unsure if the de-swelling/bruising cream worked. I did apply it diligently multiple times a day throughout my healing process and I didn’t bruise much. Perhaps it was due to the cream, or perhaps it was due to the combination of the cream and everything I mentioned above.

      I hope this helps!

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  5. Thank you!

    Your response is so helpful and so eloquently put, I’m sure many others reading this will be very appreciative as well.

    With your icing, you continued with 20 mind every hour all the way right? You didn’t ice continuously immediately post op, strictly the 20 on hour off? I’ve heard that it’s possible to over ice so I’m curious.

    Also it looks like you introduced warm compresses on day 2, which I’ve heard typically is introduced at about day 3 (I’d consult my surgeon on this), how did your alternating between the two work in terms of timing and frequency? When did you go exclusively to warm compresses only and for how long for?

    I’m looking to have a bit more work done than you, so potentially ptosis and a bit of skin removal, so in terms of healing and de-swelling I’m going to have to be super super prepared in order to do the best I can for my body 🙂

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    1. hi Kristy,
      I started Auriderm immediately after surgery. This is meant to be applied around incisions (aka not directly on).
      I started applying Mederma directly on the incisions after stitches were removed and beginning to heal over (approximately 1 month post op). I continue to use this nightly.
      I hope this helps!

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    1. hi Jay. My crease had settled by the fifth month and didn’t drop any further. I imagine other people may have different experiences though. It would depend on how quickly you heal. I know it can range up to a year for some people. Hope this helps!

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